太陽と月の疑似軌道要素
● (No.915) 太陽と月の疑似軌道要素 (2016年7月2日)
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SUN TLE
From: Mineo Wakita
To: Pedro Converso
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 08:28:22 +0900
Hello,
Do you have TLE of SUN.
Thank you.
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
Re: SUN TLE
From: Pedro Converso
To: Mineo Wakita
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:46:54 -0300
Hello Mineo,
I think there is not possible to produce Sun TLEs, at least that I know.
On http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm, Sun position is calculated.
I attach sunpos.js where you have a function to calculate Sun lat/lon.
If you load on your web sunpos.js (attached) and include in a web page
<script src="sunpos.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
Calling this sunpos function will return Sun's latitude longitude.
Hope this is of any help, nevertheless please advice if I can be of help.
73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso
Re^2: SUN TLE
From: Mineo Wakita
To: Pedro Converso
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 11:30:30 +0900
Thanks for the attqached 'sunpos.js'.
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<HTML>
<HEAD></HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
<script src="sunpos.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
</BODY>
</HTML>
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But, Nothing changes on my browser by the above description.
By the way, I found MOON TLE on your web.
MOON
1 00000U 00000 16179.56434792 .00000000 00000-0 10000-3 0 00001
2 00000 018.4553 004.0484 0463000 029.4136 333.1953 00.03660099000006
This MOON TLE is nice.
I previously found SUN TLE on a japanese official site.
Previously it was well tracking, but it is now overflows.
(Already it solved correctly.)
SUN
1 00001U 00 0 0 95080.09236111 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 0017
2 00001 023.4400 000.0000 0000000 282.8700 075.2803 00.00273790930019
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
Re: Re^2: SUN TLE
From: Pedro Converso
To: Mineo Wakita
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 00:18:34 -0300
Hello Mineo,
Here is a working html example using sunpos.js at your site:
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<HTML><HEAD></HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
<script src="sunpos.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script language=javascript>
getsunpos();
document.write ("SUN Coordinates<br>Latitude: "+sunlat+"<br>Longitude:"+sunlon);
</script>
</BODY></HTML>
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If you change time in your PC, then will show Sun position at new time.
Regarding MOON TLEs, I develop them monthly using moonkeps.exe a program
that I got from Amsat-Na website, and then translate to 2 lines by
KepstoTLE.exe (Due moonkeps.exe provides TLEs in Amsat format).
moonkeps is at
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/software/PC/tracking/moonkeps.zip
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/moonkeps.doc
On moonkeps.zip there is a DOC file with Keplerian Elements for SUN on 1995,
don't now if they are good on 2016.
Hope this is of some use.
73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso
Re^3: SUN TLE
From: Mineo Wakita
To: Pedro Converso
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 20:12:04 +0900
The text were displayeda after changing the position of the double quotes.
But the value of 'sunlat' and 'sunlon' are not yet displayed on web.
I attached here one png file.
> document.write ("SUN Coordinates<br>Latitude: +sunlat<br>Longitude: +sunlon");
Perhaps I think the position of the double quotes are wrong.
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<HTML>
<HEAD>
<script src="sunpos.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
<script language="JavaScript">
getsunpos();
document.write ("SUN Coordinates<br>Latitude: +sunlat<br>Longitude: +sunlon");
</script>
</BODY>
</HTML>
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Thank you.
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
Re: Re^3: SUN TLE
From: Pedro Converso
To: Mineo Wakita
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 15:03:36 -0300
Hello Mineo,
Perhaps double quotes are causing problems, try this with single quote:
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<HTML><HEAD></HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
<script src="sunpos.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script language=javascript>
getsunpos();
document.write ('SUN Coordinates<br>Latitude: '+sunlat+'<br>Longitude: '+sunlon);
</script>
</BODY></HTML>
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Also available at http://amsat.org.ar/sun.htm
Meanwhile will try to 'invent' a TLE for Sun.
73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso
SUN pseudo TLE
From: Pedro Converso
To: Mineo Wakita
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 15:58:07 -0300
Hello Mineo,
I have developed (invented) a pseudo SUN TLEs for you.
SUN95
1 00001U 00000 95080.09236111 .00000000 00000-0 10000-3 0 99999
2 00001 023.4400 000.0000 0000001 282.8700 075.2803 00.00273790000018
They are based on 1995's seems accurate and included as SUN95.
Clicking on +Sats on http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm, you can add SUN95
as a 'satellite'.
Don't know if other tracking programs could take this Keps.
Hope it helps,
73, lu7abf, Pedro Converso
Re: SUN pseudo TLE
From: Mineo Wakita
To: Pedro Converso
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 09:12:27 +0900
Perfectly, I could display Latitude and Longitude of SUN
on my Java_Script web and your Sat_Passes site.
Thank you very much.
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<HTML>
<HEAD>
<script src="sunpos.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF">
<script language="JavaScript">
getsunpos();
document.write ('SUN Coordinates<br>Latitude: '+sunlat+'<br>Longitude: '+sunlon);
</script>
</BODY>
</HTML>
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And, this SUN95 TLE is very nice.
This is properly tracking SUN on your site.
SUN95
1 00001U 00000 95080.09236111 .00000000 00000-0 10000-3 0 99999
2 00001 023.4400 000.0000 0000001 282.8700 075.2803 00.00273790000018
But, it is overflow on Japanese tracking program 'Calsat32.exe'.
This 'Calsat32.exe' can track Mars, Jupiter, Venus, and Saturn
in addition to SUN and MOON. (Already it solved correctly.)
Thank you very much for a lot of advice about SUN and MOON TLE.
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
[参考] 太陽TLE No.766
国立天文台 暦の計算
[太陽と月の疑似軌道要素 update]
SUN
1 00001U 00 0 0 95080.09236111 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 0017
2 00001 023.4400 000.0000 0000000 282.8700 075.2803 00.00273790930019
MOON
1 00000U 00000 18159.72676026 .00000000 00000-0 10000-3 0 99993
2 00000 020.3672 011.6574 0628000 102.1918 264.5285 00.03660099000009
[太陽『緯度経度⇒方位仰角』変換方法]
1. 上記、Java Script をエディタで書き、htm形式で保存後、ブラウザで実行。
2.『Calsat32AzEl.exe』を起動し、太陽の緯度経度距離、自局緯度経度を入力。
3･ http://www.amsat.org.ar/pass.htm 下段に必要事項を入力し、太陽を確認。
4. Calsat32 で太陽を表示し、確認。
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