How to use "WiSP-TLM" with WiSP32
● (No.171) How to use "WiSP-TLM" with WiSP32 (May 18, 2000) ------------------------------------------------------------- This is a bulletin to amsat-bb wrote by JE9PEL/1, Mineo Wakita. ================================= How to use "WiSP-TLM" with WiSP32 ================================= This "WiSP-TLM" is the program to decode the satellite degital signals with "WiSP16". And you can use also it in "WiSP32" by the next way. For example KO-25; (1) Save "wisp.ini" used for WiSP16 in "C:/windows". (2) Copy "wisp-tlm.exe", "kitsat2.cfg", "kitsat2.pag" in "C:/wisp". (3) GSC - Setup - Programs - Menu Title - "Wisp-Tlm" Startup Directory - "C:/wisp" Program Name - "wisp-tlm.exe" (4) GSC - Setup - Satellite Setup - "KO-25" - Edit - - General - TLM Config File - "C:/wisp/kitsat2.cfg" (5) GSC - Setup - Satellite Setup - "KO-25" - Edit - - MSPE Settings - General - (Check)LOG Telemetry frames (6) GSC - Programs - "Wisp-Tlm" - Telemetry - Select Satellite - - "KO-25" - Telemetry - Playback File - "KO-25" - - (ex.)"99426k25.tlm" - Window - Communications - Telemetry - Play Computer Forward Power Temperature Navigation About "wisp.ini" in the above (1), You need to install firstly WiSP16 (in Windows3.1), and GSC will generate automatically "wisp.ini" after several satellite settings. You install secondly WiSP32 (in Windows95) after WiSP16's deletion, and you must do the same satellite settings in GSC(WiSP32). Please you put this "wisp.ini" file in C:\windows. Then GSC(WiSP32) will recognize "wisp-tlm.exe" in the above (3). If you want to add new satellites, please edit in this "wisp.ini". Example, please put the following 4 files in the next directory. This "99426k25.tlm" was the telemetry file that I get from KO-25 at 26-Apr 1999, 02:13-02:20z. wisp.ini ....... C:/windows kitsat2.cfg .... C:/wisp (for KO-25) kitsat2.pag .... C:/wisp (for KO-25) 99426k25.tlm ... C:/wisp/KO-25 (sample) CF1.[Setup for KO-25] GSC - Setup - Programs - Menu Title - "Wisp-Tlm" Startup Directory - "C:/wisp" Program Name - "wisp-tlm.exe" GSC - Setup - Satellite Setup - "KO-25" - Edit - - General - TLM Config File - "C:/wisp/kitsat2.cfg" GSC - Programs - "Wisp-Tlm" - Telemetry - Select Satellite - - "KO-25" - Telemetry - Playback File - "KO-25" - - "99426k25.tlm" - Window - Communications - Telemetry - Play Computer Forward Power Temperature Navigation You can get "wisp-tlm.zip" file on the next web, and you will find cfg files for other satellites in this extracted file. And you can get the updated "WiSP3215" program on the next ftp. http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/CSER/UOSAT/amateur/software/wisp.html ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/software/win32/wisp/ 'Wisp-tlm.exe' is a program for 'UO-22, KO-23, KO-25, TO-31, UO-36' on WiSP32. Please refer 'WiSP how to install' and 'CFG file link' in my home page below. For 'AO-16, LO-19', you are in need of 'tlmdc4.exe'. tlmdc4.zip (tlmdc4.exe) ......... Telemetry Decorder http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftpsoft.html And you must get 'KISS file' befor the fact from the satellite with WiSP32. Firstly check the followings setup in 'GSC'. GSC - Setup - Satellite Setup - LO-19 - Edit - - MSPE Settings - Log Kiss frames Log telemetry frames - OK (again)- MSPE Settings - Log Kiss frames Log telemetry frames - OK And you specify this got KISS file name on DOS_PROMPT. Then it will be automatically decoded to the numerical data. Tlmdc4 - F(Decode File) - Input raw data file to read: *.kss CF2.[Configuration file] Uo5tlm.cfg for UO-22 Kitsat1.cfg for KO-23 Kitsat2.cfg for KO-25 are in wisp-tlm.zip on the following web; http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/CSER/UOSAT/amateur/software/wisp.html Tmsat1.cfg for TO-31 is on the following web; http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/CSER/UOSAT/amateur/tmsat/ Uo12obc.cfg for UO-36 is in uo12tlm.zip on the following web; http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/CSER/UOSAT/amateur/uosat-12/ CF3.[Wisp.ini] Sample file; http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisp-ini.htm CF4.[Analysis for KO-25] http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ko25tlme.htm CF5.[Mails on Realtime] Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 22:13:12 +0000 Subject: Re: WISP-TLM From: Roy Welch [rdwelch@swbell.net] Cc: "'amsat-bb@amsat.org'" [amsat-bb@amsat.org] WISP-TLM is not compatible with WiSP32. Bill Hurlock wrote: > > Does anyone know what the status of WISP-TLM is? I tried to install > and use it but it doesn't seem to work . I was able to get it to > come up on the screen but it doesn't seem to talk to MSPE. I noticed > it wasn't in the WISP32.zip file from AMSAT. Also some help on the > EQ files would be great. > > 73 wa2tqi bill > -- 73, Roy Internet: w0sl@amsat.org Home Page: http://home.swbell.net/rdwelch ---- Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 Subject: Re: WISP-TLM From: "M. Wakita" [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp] To: amsat-bb@amsat.org WISP-TLM is not compatible with WiSP32. But you can work it in WiSP32 by the technique. Please refer the more information in the below web. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisptlme.htm ---- Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:24:19 EDT Subject: Re: WISP-TLM From: K1uxbMa@cs.com To: je9pel@jamsat.or.jp, bill@hurlock.net CC: amsat-bb@amsat.org In a message dated 5/10/00 7:41:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, je9pel@jamsat.or.jp writes: [[ http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisptlme.htm ]] >About "wisp.ini" in the above (1), >You need to install firstly WiSP16 (in Windows3.1), and GSC will >generate automatically "wisp.ini" after several satellite settings. Thank you for the info but I Never Had "WiSP16",I started with Wisp32. >You install secondly WiSP32 (in Windows95) after WiSP16's deletion, >and you must do the same satellite settings in GSC(WiSP32). Please >you put this "wisp.ini" file in C:\windows. Since WiSP16 is not on Amsat site maybe you could sent a copy of "wisp.ini" then I'll just edit file and insert into C:\windows (98se), as you suggest. >Then GSC(WiSP32) will recognize "wisp-tlm.exe" in the above (3). >If you want to add new satellites, please edit in this "wisp.ini". 73 Nick_ K1uxb AmSat M#22708 ---- Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:30:31 EDT Subject: wisp-tlm.exe with WiSP32 From: Reinricht@aol.com To: je9pel@jamsat.or.jp Hello Mineo, I have read your very interesting message in AMSAT-BB and on your homepage about using WiSP-tlm.exe with WiSP32. I would like to make a translation for the next issue of our AMSAT-DL Journal and hope that you have no objections. I am also active on the digital sats but have not experimented much with telemetry decoding. Now I followed your instructions on the example of KO-25 and I have succeeded to get the system working. But only one exeption. I understood that wisp-tlm.exe can decode telemetry in realtime. When I am receiving the satellite and open wisp-tlm.exe and click on 'Telemetry' and then 'Select Satellite' I then select KO-25. Then again I click on 'Telemetry' and then on 'Live from MSPE'. Nothing happens. When I then click on 'Play' immediately an error message pops up and I have to close the program. In other words I can only decode telemetry from a file but not in realtime. Can you give me any additional advise? 73 from EXPO2000 city Hannover Reinhard, DJ1KM@amsat.org ---- Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 Subject: wisp-tlm.exe with WiSP32 From: "M. Wakita" [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp] To: DJ1KM@amsat.org Hello Reinhard, Yes I shall be glad to help printing in AMSAT-DL Jounal. Would you please sending me that your Jounal printing my messages ? I rewrote yesterday a few messages in my below HomePage. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisptlme.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ko25tlme.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/configur.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisp-ini.htm Well, I considered that the telemetry analysis was worth after getting as a file, so I made many experiments in that way long ago. > When I click on 'Telemetry' and then on 'Live from MSPE', > nothing happens. And when I then click on 'Play' immediately an > error message pops up. I think also this is a program bug. I intend to try these 'realtime' experimentations after tomorrow. ---- Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 04:00:06 EDT Subject: Re: wisp-tlm.exe with WiSP32 From: Reinricht@aol.com To: je9pel@jamsat.or.jp Hello Mineo, [[ Yes I shall be glad to help printing in AMSAT-DL Jounal. Would you please sending me that your Jounal printing my messages ?]] For sure I will send you a copy [[ http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisptlme.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ko25tlme.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/configur.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisp-ini.htm ]] I have checked them all already [[ I think also this is a program bug. I intend to try these 'realtime' experimentations after tomorrow. ]] I look forward for your findings because realtime decoding is the most interesting feature. Decoding from a file is also possible with other programs. 73 Reinhard ---- Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 Subject: WiSP-TLM for KO-23 with WiSP3215 From: "M. Wakita" [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp] To: DJ1KM@amsat.org,Reinricht@aol.com,K1uxbMa@cs.com Cc: c.jackson@eim.surrey.ac.uk,w0sl@amsat.org Today, 14 May 2000, I attempted to test 'WiSP-TLM realtime' experimentations for KO-23 with WiSP3215. I confirmed that 'WiSP-TLM' could decode only after receiving as a telemetry file not 'realtime'. Whenever I click on 'Telemetry' and then on 'Live from MSPE', nothing happens. And when I then click on 'Play' immediately an error message pops up. This is a certain fact, so I think this may be a program bug. Although 'WISP-TLM' is not compatible with WiSP32, we can decode only after received file as the next way. (1) Save "wisp.ini" on "C:/windows" in Windows95(WiSP32). (2) Copy "wisp-tlm.exe", "kitsat1.cfg", "kitsat1.pag" in "C:/wisp". (3) GSC - Setup - Programs - Menu Title - "WiSP-TLM" Startup Directory - "C:/wisp" Program Name - "wisp-tlm.exe" (4) GSC - Setup - Satellite Setup - "KO-23" - Edit - - General - TLM Config File - "C:/wisp/kitsat1.cfg" (5) GSC - Setup - Satellite Setup - "KO-23" - Edit - - MSPE Settings - General - (Check)LOG Telemetry frames (6) GSC - Programs - "WiSP-TLM" - Telemetry - Select Satellite - - "KO-23" - Telemetry - Playback File - "KO-23" - - "(telemetry file)" - Window - Communications - Telemetry - Play Computer Power Temperature Navigation This (telemetry file) is a telemetry file that I received from KO-23 at today 06:45 UTC, 14 May 2000. This is in the following URL. GIF_file is too in the same URL, and the three TLM_files open in it. About the more informations (bwcc.dll etc), refer the below URL. http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/ko23tlme.htm http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/wisptlme.htm ---- Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 03:54:55 EDT Subject: Re: WiSP-TLM for KO-23 with WiSP3215 To: je9pel@jamsat.or.jp From: Reinricht@aol.com Hello Mineo-san, [[ I confirmed that 'WiSP-TLM' could decode only after receiving as a telemetry file not 'realtime'. Whenever I click on 'Telemetry' and then on 'Live from MSPE', nothing happens. And when I then click on 'Play' immediately an error message pops up. This is a certain fact, so I think this may be a program bug. ]] I suppose that MSPE of WiSP supplies different data then MSPE of WiSP32, and this maybe the reason that "Live from MSPE" does not work with WiSP32. It is a pity because realtime decoding would be a nice feature together with WiSP32. For decoding from a file there exist already some other programs. The article I was going to write for AMSAT-DL-Journal was based on realtime decoding. Now when we realized that it does not work I will not publish this article in the journal. In case that you will have new findings in this matter please let me know. 73 Reinhard, DJ1KM ---- Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 Subject: WiSP-TLM From: "M. Wakita" [je9pel@jamsat.or.jp] To: c.jackson@eim.surrey.ac.uk,w0sl@amsat.org Cc: DJ1KM@amsat.org,Reinricht@aol.com,K1uxbMa@cs.com I thought that WiSP-TLM was actually a program for WiSP16(Windows3.1). It could work 'realtime' in Windows3.1. When MSPE run, WiSP-TLM indicate 'Connected to MSPE' in the bottom. And it decode automatically in 'realtime'. I noticed that it decoded every 3 seconds in case of KO-23 KO-25, and every 5 seconds in case of UO-22. When MSPE closed, WiSP-TLM indicated 'Disconnected from MSPE'. I hope to up version this nice WiSP-TLM program for WiSP32. ---- Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:40:21 EDT Subject: Re: WiSP-TLM From: Reinricht@aol.com To: je9pel@jamsat.or.jp Hello Mineo-san, thank you for your further comments. I think G7UPN is the only who can modify WiSP-TLM so that it will work together also with WiSP32. But I doubt that he can do it because he is heavily overloaded with his work at UoS. If there is any progress please keep me informed. Thank you. 73 Reinhard, DJ1KM
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